How to easily bypass Google and reach position one for any keyword using the Blackhat 301 redirect method

How to easily bypass Google and reach position one for any keyword using the Blackhat 301 redirect method

Last Updated On: March 30, 2017

At the time of writing, the 301 redirect technique is pure gold and can be exploited to no end. This I can promise you.

Since 2009 I have been involved in a fairly small niche centered around a brand of homeopathic skin care products. It was at this time, I launched a typical affiliate blog around the brand and created twelve, six hundred word articles of decent enough quality. I designed the site myself and created some eye catching affiliate buttons at the bottom of each article with a call to action.

A few years back the site dropped like a stone, before the drop I was earning a few hundred dollars a month and no amount of linkbuilding I did after it dropped would bring the site back from the brink.

Online whispers revealed the most powerful ranking technique

I spend a lot of time in various Blackhat forums and if you’ve ever been to a Blackhat forum you’ll sometimes see users posting interesting details which they quickly retract or purposely refuse to expand on, often going silent. I listened to these whispers carefully and begun to see a running theme among them. It was then that I decided to take a leap of faith and try what I now believe is the most powerful method to rank a site.

Planning the strategy

After deciding to take a leap of faith, I spent the next few days gathering resources to execute my plan and knowing how difficult the niche had been in the past, I was eager to see what would happen. After gathering everything I needed and marking it down I realized I would need;

  • $200-$400 investment in spam linkbuilding
  • $200-$400 in domains from GoDaddy auctions
  • Less than a day investment of time
  • Patience enough to follow through on the plan

How the site performed after using the 301 redirect method

Following the bits and pieces of information I’d found online, I executed my strategy and invested in linkbuilding services to create many thousands of backlinks. The site was created around March 31st and I immediately begun linkbuilding to the 301 redirects. I used the RankRanger service to track rankings on a daily basis and within seven days the site already began climbing Google, from position three hundred to position one hundred. Within two weeks the site had reached the top thirty for the single main brand keyword. Then after three weeks it finally hit the top 10 for the main keyword. I thought that top 10 would be the final resting place for the site, however I was in for a surprise as the site continued to rise until it finally rested alternating between position two and three.

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Screenshots from RankRanger

The 301 redirect technique is what the big affiliate marketing players are using to bank

This isn’t a fluke, before I begun planning to use this strategy I had been researching what the big players among us are doing to make money post Panda and Penguin. I documented many cases of sites dominating the top five results in Google for big keywords such as “cheap life insurance” and “diet pills”. Using archive.org, majestic SEO and RankRanger I could document when the site was created, exactly what they did and any content changes made to the site. It was incredible to see these strategies being deployed and how incredibly fast the target site would rank for hugely competitive keywords.

The 301 strategy is extremely effective, but it is a short term strategy

Eventually the Google algorithm will catch up with your site and it will begin dropping, so this is definitely a boom and bust deal. Get in and bank as soon as you can, make sure your website is fully conversion optimized and ready to convert users.

How the 301 redirect method works – Six steps to success

Quick Note: The links below are affiliate links, I would appreciate the support as I use the money to improve the content and power case studies. Thank you for your support.

These are the exact steps I took;

Step One

The first thing you need to do is buy a fresh domain which contains the keywords you are targeting. As long as it contains the main keywords you want to rank for it will be fine, then buy privacy because other sites will be watching you(I found people coming to my site from site:domain.com in my analytics, which means they are watching you). GoDaddy often have discounts on new domains and it is quite simple to setup a domain using them. New Customers get 35% off at GoDaddy.com! Expires 6/25/13.

Step Two

After buying a fresh domain, I then added the new domain to my hosting’s Cpanel account and used the Cpanel WordPress clone tool to completely clone my old site to my new domain. Word for word, everything is the same, an exact copy of the site. If you need hosting then my preferred hosting is EvoHosting, they’ve never let me down and always respond to support tickets straight away. They’re UK based but have excellent servers with SSDs, good security and are low price. I also use Cloudflare(It is free) on all of my hosting for added security and anonymity.

Cloning the old site to the new domain is not essential, I did this mainly for ease. But what I have noticed is that the big players who use this technique several times will tend to clone the old site to the fresh domain. After you’ve ranked your first site and it eventually drops, you can begin cloning easily.

I designed and built my own website template for this particular site, but I recently began using Elegant Themes because their templates look very professional and are easy to setup which is important as we want to make sure we squeeze every sale out of the site while it is ranking. I use their themes on many of my sites right now and they are certainly worth the money. For content I use Iwriter.com but I always rewrite the content again myself to ensure it is good enough to convert. Good content is extremely important because even if you get the traffic, you still need to convert it into sales and good convincing content is the difference between a trickle and a flood of sales.

If you can’t find what you need from Elegant Themes then it is worth trying the ThemeForest WordPress Blog section which is where I bought the template for agentblackhat.com, the Madidus Theme.

Step Three

After setting up the site clone I then filtered through a list of all my current websites and created two lists. The first list contained five domains including the old domain which I could directly 301 redirect to the new domain. Some of these were domains I bought from GoDaddy auctions in the past but never used(they didn’t even have any hosting) and some were sites which had been penalized and I didn’t have a use for any more. The second list was six domains that I still have websites on that I wanted to keep, but could still use.

I bought some of these domains from GoDaddy auctions but never used them until now. If you don’t have domains at your disposal or you believe you will need more power behind the redirects to channel into a new site then you should look for domains in GoDaddy auctions which have a decent backlink profile. It is easy to find a low price ($30) site which was once PR3 and has some good links pointing to it. I’d recommend buying a minimum of five domains to start your portfolio of sites you can use redirect to and power a fresh domain. You can keep adding to this portfolio over time and it will only get stronger. Click here for domain Auctions at GoDaddy.com

Step Four

For the first list I used Cpanel to 301 redirect the domains straight to the new website. No nonsense, just a straight 301 redirect in Cpanel. Cpanel makes a simple 301 redirect change in the .htaccess file. But if you don’t use Cpanel then you can use this piece of code in your .htaccess file. It doesn’t matter if you currently have a website on that domain, all you need to do is to access your website files, backup your old .htaccess file and then replace everything inside the .htaccess with this code below(changing the “newdomain.com” to your fresh domain. Once you make this change the whole site should redirect to the new domain, including all of the URLs too. If it doesn’t look like it worked try clearing your browsers cache.

# BEGIN WordPress

RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.targetdomainforredirect.com/$1 [R=301,L] 
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

# END WordPress

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^thisdomaintoredirect\.org$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.thisdomaintoredirect\.org$
RewriteRule ^/?$ "http\:\/\/www\.targetdomainforredirect\.com" [R=301,L]

Warning: Please make a backup of your .htaccess file before making any changes.

Step Five

With the second list, I began creating subdomains from the main site. So imagine one of these domains was “Agentblackhat.com”(it isn’t), I created homoeopathyproduct.agentblackhat.com. As long as the subdomain contains the keyword we are targeting in the URL with the new site it will work great. Google says that a subdomain is treated as a separate site, so in theory a subdomain should not affect the main site but I’m sure there are exceptions. I then forwarded these subdomains directly to the new site.

Step Six

Now that the main site is setup and we have eleven redirects pointing to the new site we can begin the fun part. From what I’d observed, a crucial part of the strategy is to spam the redirects with as many links as possible, disregarding the quality of the link. From my analysis of sites using this technique, quantity, not quality of links seems to be the strategy. With this in mind I used several linkbuilding services spread between all eleven redirects.

Linkbuilding services mainly consisted of;

  • Ultimate Demon blasts with my personal lists, about 3,000-5,000 web 2.0, bookmarks, directory submissions, wikis, article directories and forums.
  • Scrapebox Blasts to my own scraped list (I don’t remember how many comments I made for this sorry).
  • SEOlutions – Simple Solutions 3000 web 2.0 package – $190
  • Backlink Massacre Monster package – 150,000 blog comments – $85
  • Fiverr.com – Crork Service – 40,000 blog comments + 2,500 do follow + delivered in 3 days – $25
  • SEObacklinks.biz – 4th package – $40

A linkbuilding service i’ve used in the past but didn’t use in this experiment is Backlink Banzai. It would be perfect as an ongoing service to keep links regularly flowing into the redirects and it is relatively cheap. Backlink Banzai is best used for anchor text diversification as it spams many links from all over the web using huge anchor text lists but it is also perfect for the 301 redirect method. If you want to “set it and forget it” then this service is a good solution.

I continued to do this for a few weeks but then toned it down a lot. In hindsight, I wonder what would have happened if I had continued linkbuilding. With each linkbuilding package I ordered the plan was to get as many links as possible in a short amount of time. So extras such as drip feeding and tiered linkbuilding are not really needed. You don’t need to use the services listed and I believe I missed a couple out as I didn’t keep a list of them all, you simply need to get as many links as possible blasted to the redirects while maintaining anchor text relevancy.

For the anchor text creation, I used Ultimate Niche Finder to drill down and expand on all of the keywords in the niche which contained the brand name. I then simply exported the list and used this as the anchor text when submitting to linkbuilding services. Get 50% off Ultimate Niche Finder here.

Conclusion

I’ve certainly made a profit in this experiment and I believe I’ve cracked it first time. I’ve been tracking sites using this technique to rank for extremely competitive niches and make bank. Some people are also scamming by selling these sites on Flippa for tens of thousands. While my Blackhat is firmly on my head I don’t believe in scamming anyone in any shape or form so please don’t engage in selling the site afterwards.

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Screenshots from RankRanger

Step Seven?

While my experiment was a success, the wider scope of how this technique can be used is quite astonishing. After the site dies and is penalized by Google, the next step is to buy another fresh domain and add the old domain to the portfolio, ready to be switched onto a new website at any time. This means you now have instant ranking power ready to be directed at any time.

There are some very smart marketers out there who are using this technique but there is a key detail which makes the whole technique even more genius. By creating subdomains on the main domains in the second list we created, we can endlessly linkbuild to these subdomains and from one main domain you can target several niches, this saves you a lot of money in domain names as you simply need to create a new subdomain everytime you want to target a new niche. To help you understand what I’m saying, imagine an Octopus, your site being the body of the Octopus and each leg being a subdomain targeting a separate niche. Instead of buying eight domains from GoDaddy auctions, you can simply buy one domain and use subdomains to target eight different niches.

Why does the 301 redirect method work?

This is not a new technique, but never before has this technique been so powerful and it seems to be a well kept secret. There are several reasons why this technique is so powerful but I think it all boils down to a few key points.

Firstly, it is my belief and other SEO specialists belief that Google is now marking many links around the web as “bad” which causes them to pump “negative PageRank”, this has been hinted at by Google on a few occasions now and it makes sense. This would mean that the internet as a whole is devalued in comparison to a fresh website. It is likely that a 301 redirect does not pass negative PageRank for some time after it pumps positive PageRank and other key signals. A fresh domain with so many 301 redirects instantly powering it causes an unbalance as Google tries to catch up. Google is not great at applying penalties, it takes time catch up and penalize a site and in the meantime, we can bank.

Secondly, a website doesn’t need as many links to rank anymore. Before Panda and Penguin, many keywords were simply deemed too competitive to rank as the SERPs were a linear competition of “who has the most links”. This has changed in recent times and every keyword is now up for grabs, nothing seems too competitive anymore, you simply have to get a site trusted by Google rather than make it the strongest site.

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318 Comment responses

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    June 21, 2013

    Hello gorang,

    Excellent article, I’ve really enjoyed reading it. I’m a little bit jealous that you’ve shared the method publicly but hey it doesn’t even matter as 99% of people won’t take action or time to apply what you have shared with them.

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    June 22, 2013

    what u think clone somebody else website, to use as money site?
    Would be too much?

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      June 22, 2013

      I’ve seen more occurrences of people ranking stolen content. If the target website with the redirects is much stronger than the site you stole the content from then it could be possible. But this is not something I know, you need to test it if you have a good idea it will work.

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    June 22, 2013

    Great post Gorang! I have a question for you though, do the domains you buy have to be aged or just have aged backlinks? Can it be a domain that was dropped 5 years ago and never registered?

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      June 22, 2013

      I think the domains you buy should be aged and have backlinks yes as it will add more power. I believe the subdomains gain authority from the main sites too, which is how they also still provide power when 301ed.

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    June 22, 2013

    Hi Gorang! This is a great post. I’ll test it one day when I gather enough resources. Still, I have one question. What is the competition of the keyword you were trying to ranking for in the test you took?

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      June 22, 2013

      In Ultimate Niche Finder the keyword I ranked 3rd for is rated as “Hard” and has 2,3 million results. From being in the niche since 2009 I know that the main keyword was difficult to rank for. But with Google’s recent updates it has become a matter of being trusted and there are some very strange sites ranking for the keyword now. I reached position 2 for the keyword at its highest, only beaten by the main website for the brand.

      So not the most competitive keyword but in its heyday it wasn’t a walk in the park either.

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    June 22, 2013

    Great article… The domains that were used are they aged domains with high page rank? Or All you need is just a domain with a large backlink profile?

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      June 22, 2013

      Four of the domains were were from around 3-4 years ago. I stopped using the domains because Google had stopped ranking them due to the spam.

      All of the domains I used had age and spam pointed at them. I think age is an important factor.

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    June 22, 2013

    So when you build your massive backlinks, you link to the main domain, but the subdomains will still benefit? I blast http://www.example.com with 300,000 links, but point sub1.example.com to my new website. When new website goes down, I still keep blasting http://www.example.com and use sub2.example.com for the next site? I don’t blast the links to subdomain?
    BTW, awesome post man. Very eye opening. Thank you for sharing it with us.

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      June 22, 2013

      You blast the subdomain with links, not the main domain. Treat them like separate sites. I don’t know what effect blasting the main domain on the subdomains might have but blasting the subdomains is what i’ve seen others doing and what worked in my experiment.

      When the target site dies, you simply clone it and 301 all domains including the domain that was just penalized straight your freshly cloned domain.

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        June 22, 2013

        Oh wow, now I see what you’re talking about. I was misunderstanding part of the process. So you go after domains with PR and a link profile, and what if they have been penalized before? Does that matter since we are using the subdomain?

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          June 22, 2013

          I’ve not experimented doing this without penalized domains, most of the domains had stopped ranking and from my observations most of the marketers using this technique also use penalized domains.

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        June 22, 2013

        I had to read your article several times to understand what you are doing here. To be on the safer side, I will outline the steps once again:

        Step 1: Create a main site — say xxx.com

        Step 2: Buy old domains, several of them. Let’s pick one: yyy.com

        Step 3: Now we have two options: either 301 yyy.com to xxx.com or create a new subdomain on yyy.com — 111.yyy.com — and 301 it to xxx.com

        I should make sure that “111” is a keyword related to “xxx.com”

        So, if my xxx.com is in KNIFE niche, I should have newknife.yyy.com 301ing to xxx.

        Step 4: Build links to newknife.yyy.com — the links doesn’t matter.

        Step 5: I should have more sub-domains or new domains pointing to XXX.com

        This is the overall strategy, right?

        I have a few questions:

        Say that yyy.com has 15k backlinks, and it was an expired domain. I register the domain.

        When I create a sub-domain on yyy.com, the sub-domain is treated as a sub-domain. And it doesn’t matter if yyy.com has 15k backlinks or 0 backlinks right?

        I mean, sub-domain are treated as a different site according to Google. You mean to say they are not?

        BTW, fantastic article! Ready to invest huge money on this.

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          June 22, 2013

          That’s exactly right, just make sure you blast as many links as possible to these redirects, go overboard, a much as you can.

          I think the yyy.com site should have some age and some backlinks, i do think that is important. I haven’t tried this method with all fresh domains, i tried to use aged domains with backlink profiles and this worked well for me.

          Good luck and please let me know how it goes, i want to see some success stories!

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            June 23, 2013

            Thanks! I am going to update you.

            One more question: I have an “existing” site, which is 5-6 year old — was linked by Techcrunch and many authoritative sites. The site has over 2000+ unique content.

            Say this domain name of this site is fff.com.

            I also have mini-sites — mmm.com, vvvv.com, etc.

            I am planning to create a new mmm.fff.com and vvv.fff.com and redirect to my mini-sites.

            Have you experimented this way? Any harm in this case?

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          June 24, 2013

          what gets the penalty xxx.com or yyy.com (being redirected to xxx.com).

          If So, then is it true that xxx.com drops because Google devalued/penalized yyy.com and it’s juice?

          If so, what then? Start again with zzz.com being redirected to xxx.com. Or does xxx.com become a through away domain?

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            June 25, 2013

            When your moneysite gets penalized, just buy another domain and redirect everything, including that old domain to your new domain and start the process again.

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    June 22, 2013

    Please take this off from blackhatworld, this is too much information for the noobs who will make this method go downhill.

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    June 22, 2013

    Great post, I’m gonna try this! Quick question: you mentioned the sub-domain sites have to contain the keyword so I’m wondering – does the expired domains have to be relevant to the money site’s niche/target keyword too? Also what kind, and how much content do you have on the money site? Does it effect it’s ranking? Thanks!

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      June 22, 2013

      Another quick question I forgot to ask – what sort of hosting do you use for your domains and clean site? Thanks a million!

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        June 22, 2013

        I use evohosting in step two, if you’re interested then please use the aff link. But they are genuinely awesome hosts. Any problems ive had they sorted straight away.

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      June 22, 2013

      The expired domains dont have to be relevant, but I do think having the subdomains containing the keyword is a big help. I speculate, but I do think Google sees this as a very big relevancy signal which helps rank the target site.

      The money site has twelve 600 word articles and is a complete clone of the old site which was penalized.

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        June 22, 2013

        Hey thanks for the reply! I’m just looking at niches and aged domains and I’m wondering the importance of an existing backlink profile, why is an existing profile needed if we’ll be blasting thousand of links to these domains anyway? Also, what would you say to be a minimum of backlinks to these domains? Is it the age thats more important? Thanks again, much appreciated!

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    June 22, 2013

    Do you think ( i know you haven’t experienced this yet) this will work with new domain?

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      June 22, 2013

      Do you mean buying new domains to use as redirects? I don’t know, I think its best to use aged domains as redirects. It makes more sense.

      However the target site is always a fresh domain.

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    June 22, 2013

    Nice post! going to put this into action…..What are your thoughts on time, how long before rankings start to drop?

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      June 22, 2013

      Around three months I believe.

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        June 23, 2013

        Are rankings DEFINITELY going to drop? What if we also build quality links to our MAIN site…

        I mean, look at this way: thousands of webmasters use 301. They move their sites from OLD to NEW URL. Juice is passed, right.

        BTW, this is the best post I have seen in a while. 🙂

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          June 23, 2013

          I haven’t seen any sites using this method last longer than 3-6months. Maybe there are exceptions and some people have found ways to permanently keep the site up. The only way to know is through testing.

          But I haven’t found out how yet. Maybe try it without penalized domains. However all it takes is a manual review or someone to make a spam report and your site will probably get penalized.

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    June 22, 2013

    hey was wondering with the aged domains.. how many backlinks would be the minimum and why is an existing bl profile important as we will be blasting links to these domains anyway? thanks

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      June 23, 2013

      An aged domain with existing backlinks has power. Sure you can add power by simply blasting the domains with links anyway but having a backlink profile on the domain already will help to ensure that the method works.

      Personally I use all and every domain I can to 301 but I wouldn’t go as far as to buy fresh domain and use them.

      But this is something that could be tested, it might work.

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    June 22, 2013

    how are you going to use longterm keywords?
    word-word2-word3.subdomain.com ?

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      June 23, 2013

      I just use the main keyword, not longtails. Just make sure it is including somewhere in the subdomain name.

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    June 22, 2013

    would your try on adult web cam niches or dating?

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      June 23, 2013

      I don’t know enough about those niches. Check the top 10 sites in those niches and if any of the sites are using this method then you have your answer.

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    June 23, 2013

    what kind of anchor ratios did you use when spamming the 301’s? Did you go balls out on target kw’s or keep it diverse?

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      June 23, 2013

      Balls out mostly. Nearly all anchor text the same, just “product”.

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    June 23, 2013

    Is there any difference between buying active aged domain vs expired ones?

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      June 23, 2013

      I think it is fine to use expired domains but i’m not 100% sure.

      One of the domains I used I had bought form godaddy auctions a year ago. It had a yahoo business directory link and used to be PR4. I didn’t do anything with it, not even a website up until I started redirecting it.

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    June 23, 2013

    Who would reveal a method that banks BIG? No one. The affiliate links is the giveaway plus the 301 method was around for a long time. It’s a clone of a tier backlinking campaign.

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      June 23, 2013

      Someone who wants to make a great SEO blog and earn a living writing about research as well as banking using the methods.

      This method has been around for a long time but it has never been so powerful as now. You can find this method everywhere right now, its just that no one was talking about it.

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    June 23, 2013

    Hey, hey how are you. I was given this website to see the case study about your 301 redirects and ranking a website for huge competitive keywords. Well that is what i’ve just planing to do but mine will not get penalized, (i think) as i know how to connect the keywords related eachother.

    At the time i have 2 websites that are ranking for huge keywords on page one on google and passed all google updates.

    Cheers

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      June 23, 2013

      I also noticed that my site passed Penguin 2.0 without a scratch which was quite pleasing. Keep us updated on your progress. 😀

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    June 23, 2013

    Regarding hosting, is it ok that the old sites (to be redirected) and new site (for ranking) are on same hosting.

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      June 23, 2013

      Well the domains that you redirect will not have any hosting as they will redirect straight to the new domain. But yes some of my domains had been hosted on the same server at some point. I always use Cloudflare to mask hosting anyway.

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        January 30, 2014

        Google discounts links to your site that hit a 404, so if old domain is redirected to x.moneysite.com and its hitting a 404 that link juice passing to your site, eventually stops no?

        Do you redirect old sites to new site and ONE page that then links to subdomains on the money page?

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    June 23, 2013

    Awesome man, it looks like you have found out his niche as well:) I know expertpeon’s niche is real but the market is dropping a lot compared to last year, he is still banking very hard of some other sites in some other methods, maybe you want to know, you can contact me via “mzcr0wn a0l dot com” (replace 0 as o) and I think if I handle it to you, you can explore and analyse it to the next level, we can have a private groups to share info too:)

    I have a question, how many keywords you target each time? Will you build long tail keywords web page to rank, then I assuem we also need to have another group of sub domains to redirects to the long tail keywords pages?

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      June 23, 2013

      I just target the most competitive and main keyword when using the 301 method. I went straight for the single word and didn’t bother with longtails. It reached number 2 at its highest point.

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    June 23, 2013

    Awesome post. Best thing IVe read all June. Btw, what do you do about the content on subdomains? Would you recommend adding some content there, letting the subdomain index before 301’it? or just 301 an empty subdomain?

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      June 23, 2013

      I 301ed the subdomains as soon as I created them so no content is required.

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    June 23, 2013

    Hello, gonna put this in action right away. Is it possible with scrapebox only?

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      June 23, 2013

      I don’t know, I tried to get as much spam as possible to the redirects but I paid extra to get some from web 2.0s as well as from blog comments because I wanted to make sure it would work.

      I think if you’re going to attempt this strategy then you can’t hold back, you should build as many links as possible.

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    June 23, 2013

    Great article
    1, How long did your main site being penalized after reaching the first page?
    2, Will the domains which I keep blasting backlinks being sanboxed. Should I keep blasting it if it is sanboxed? or with “-1” pagerank?

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      June 23, 2013

      Thanks 🙂
      1) 2-3 months, but it was enough to earn some money.
      2) I used penalized domains to redirect to the moneysite

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        June 23, 2013

        Thanks!
        Can i use the domains even they are deindexed!?

        BTW:
        it is time for you to discover another method
        u may email me if u need someone to help in yr testing.

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        July 03, 2013

        How long does it take to reach top positions for a keyword with intitle:”keyword” of 16k? So let’s say a low-medium keyword, that normally ranks on first page only with blog comments in a month

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          March 25, 2014

          You just answer your own question mate.

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    June 23, 2013

    Do you put content to the old domain before you make 301 redirect to fresh domain?

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      June 23, 2013

      No, the content on the old domain cant be reached once the redirect happens anyway.

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        July 03, 2013

        another thing. you say that you don’t need hosting for the redirecting domains, because you do the redirect from cpanel. but don’t you need a hosting to add the redirect code in htaccess? don’t understand how can you do this without a hosting.

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    June 23, 2013

    Great share, by looking at your ranking graph, it looks like you website got hit after 2 months of ranking, right?

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      June 23, 2013

      I think so yeah, 2-3 months. I’ve seen sites last much longer than this though.

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    June 23, 2013

    Your thread over at BHW World was deleted, so came here for the 301 article. Will subscribe, thanks!

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      June 23, 2013

      Yes there are some strange things happening there over this, it seems the thread has literally vanished without a trace even to some admins.

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        June 24, 2013

        That’s a good sign!

        It just means you shared some super bad!!!!!!!! 🙂

        But don’t do it again 😀 We need this shit underground, as soon as it goes mainstream google will be forced to take action.

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    June 23, 2013

    Do you think it would be helpful to rank and existing site by using the 301 technique for old domains, and point them to an existing domain that you want to help boost the ranking on?

    Basically the question is where is the penalty coming from at the 3-6 month point? Is it because the old 301’d domains had been penalized before, or is it because of the huge explosion of spam links.

    I’d like to use this method with newly expired domains and just 301 them to my money site, but I actually would like it too work permanently and not just a quick fix… Don’t get me wrong, I think I’ll be using this for some quick fix money sites, but I wonder if a long term method might be available here with 301s?

    Thanks.

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      June 23, 2013

      I think many people have tried to 301 a domain to boost an already active site. It doesn’t seem to work, you need to use a fresh domain.

      I don’t know exactly where the penalty is coming from, but the penalties from the other domains do likely pass through eventually and hurt the site.

      If you find a way to keep a site ranking well permanently using this method then please share. Right now it doesn’t seem possible. I haven’t seen a site ranking for more than 6 months with this method.

      There is likely a more balanced point where the site will last and not get penalized but it is much easier to churn and burn several sites as you can predict what will happen.

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    June 23, 2013

    Also, did you see your rankings go up in any other search engine other than Big G?

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      June 23, 2013

      No, but strangely enough the old site that I redirected still ranks on the first page of yahoo. Go figure :S

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    June 23, 2013

    Excellent post, i still can’t believe that you are sharing one of the good method. This is what separate you from other selfish people who never share info with others.

    BTW i just noticed that your thread on BHW also got deleted. I don’t know why Moderator will delete such a good thread, may be they don’t want many people to implement this method? You never know.

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      June 23, 2013

      Thanks for the kind comments.

      I’m not sure why it was deleted yet. I’ve asked several admins/mods and they say they have no record it even existed. Something strange is happening there. I’m trying to get it back somehow. I have backups of the thread.

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        June 23, 2013

        Do you really believe them? I am 100% sure that one of the MOD only deleted it. Also it was not the first time your thread is deleted.

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          June 23, 2013

          Usually when a thread is deleted there is a record of it. But there is nothing. I don’t know what to think right now. I didn’t know it had been deleted before… I guess there is someone at BHW who doesn’t like my thread.

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    June 23, 2013

    Hi, great post on bhw can’t believe it was deleted…. Perhaps the powers that be don’t want this in the public domain… Can you please tell me if you build any links to the new site or if you just blast links to the old re-directed sites?

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      June 23, 2013

      I don’t think you need to build links to the new site, you can try it. I did a little linkbuilding after the site was ranking well but i dont know how much difference it made.

      If you’re going to linkbuild, only linkbuild to the redirects. I noticed most sites ranking with this method have very low linkbuilding to the fresh domain/moneysite.

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        June 23, 2013

        Ok great thanks, I will try with and without and let you know my results.

        I noticed on your post you outsourced the backlinking to some providers that were quite expensive. If it’s just the quantity of backlinks wouldn’t fiverr be a better source or value for money or even purchasing the software to do the backlinking for you?

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          June 23, 2013

          I chose to go for the 3,000 web 2.0s which were quite expensive simply because I thought that if I was going to do this, I needed to do it properly so I didn’t hold back. I don’t have full faith in blog comments so I tried to pump other types of links too. Just something that can pass some power into the domains.

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            June 23, 2013

            Ok thanks I understand. I love the idea of that and will do some serious testing to find out what works best.

            Thank you again very much!

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    June 23, 2013

    Great post. Would you recommend putting the sites that 301 to the main site on different IP’s?

    thx

    al

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      June 23, 2013

      You don’t need hosting to 301 a domain. The domains will simply be sitting in your godaddy account so there is no server.

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    June 23, 2013

    thanks for the great share on bhw, don’t be surprised if the new post gets canned too, some people don’t want to draw attention to some methods

    as a spin-off on this, do you think main domains would get penalized if we only link-build to sub-domains? I am just wondering if penalties apply across sub-domains.

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      June 24, 2013

      and it took 6 replies and is gone too. Better to leave this one alone mate.

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    June 24, 2013

    Now that I recall, I had several .info domains with adsense sites on it, after a couple of years I bought the local domain, that sites are not in English.
    so i cloned the site from .info to the new domain and redirect all the pages from the .info to the new domain, i did not do any link building tom the .info, I did not know about this method, just some link building to the new domain, and yes the ranking improoved a lot but later went down again.

    Too bad after a couple of year, I didnt renew those info domains.

    I am short on money, but obviously I want to apply this method the gains can be outstanding, I went to expireddomains site, how is better to filter, real page rank, or backlinks? I check the page rank look real, but If I check the backlinks with majesticseo, expireddomains says thousands, but majestic say 5-10 at max.
    what is your view?

    thanks

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    June 24, 2013

    Ok, I’m the previous guy that was having a go at you. Yep this method sure works. Why? I have plenty of domains that .edu, .gov backlinks but they are utilized for a PBN. Imagine me passing all of them to a new website. Rankings should increase, it’s common sense. But why the fuck did your thread get deleted, maybe a threat to the BST section I am guessing such as speedrank, saperank threads etc.

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    June 24, 2013

    Bro! I just created a thread saying “where is Gorang’s thread” and the mods deleted it ASAP. Man what the hell is going on. This only allows me to support you even more now!

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    June 24, 2013

    Hi, nice post. i would like to do this great secret of big G.
    BTW. Your tread in BHW asking “why your 301 method is deleted” is deleted too. 😆
    You have revealed too much i think.

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    June 24, 2013

    Seems they deleted you again….. wonder why they are trying to hide this info? Its not like its top secret or something….

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    June 24, 2013

    Boom… thread deleted again. Just want to say thanks for this. I’ve been putting a fair bit of study into this and similar since I started noticing subdomains ranking well in certain niches. Also spent a fair amount of time on Godaddy auctions looking at the real profile of domains and noticed some odd things there. This kinda explains a few things now! Thanks for posting.

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    June 24, 2013

    Funny how they keep deleting your thread and also goes to show how wack that board really is. They delete anything of value and keep all the redundant threads. It’s almost as if they are trying to keep everyone “dumbed down”.

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    June 24, 2013

    So you think you can use those same subdomains once your money site gets penalized and re-direct them to a new site? You haven’t noticed any negative penalty being added also to the subdomains once the money site gets hit?

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    June 24, 2013

    I meant to say that domains with high real page rank, have no backlinks, and domains with low page rank, 0-1-2 have more backlinks. Anyway i am going to wait for when they update.

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      June 24, 2013

      Ditto!

      I am unable to find expired domains with good backlinks. Those that have good backlinks are really expensive, or simply fake. I have also subscribed to a FreshDrop account — not really sure if I am using it correctly. I want DROPPED domain names, which I can redirect and blast later.

      Agent Blackhat, appreciate what you are doing here. 🙂

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    June 24, 2013

    Great post, very interesting. What is the effect of hosting so many penalized sites together though? Do you need to get a new IP address for fresh domains to prevent them getting penalized? Or is it safe to simply host them all on the same IP address?

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      June 24, 2013

      You don’t host domains with hosting. You don’t need a a server for them ^^

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        June 24, 2013

        Well you need hosting for the main domain where you’re doing the conversions. Eventually that gets penalized. You start using it as a 301 redirect per the above (so you can discontinue hosting it). But you do now need a fresh main domain, which you also need hosting for. So unless you change ip address you’re now hosting on the ip address of a previously penalized domain.

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    June 24, 2013

    Why did this article get deleted off bhp?

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      June 24, 2013

      First time was a glitch. Second time I have no idea, still waiting for a response.

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      June 24, 2013

      Yes, I was planning to read it later but the thread had disappear. I had to searched it on a forum which was leeching bhw and then found the link to your blog, lol 🙂

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    June 24, 2013

    yes, I found some pr 2 in the expired domains, just registered on freshdot, no many backlinks too

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    June 24, 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihsPzzedA6A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Really good video explaining the concept of 301. If anyone needs help finding high quality domains skype me. I will teach you free of charge. Agentblackhat could we start a mastermind group regarding seo/blackhat tricks somewhere on FB or skype.

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      June 24, 2013

      what your skype?

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        June 24, 2013

        Give me ur BHW username I will PM it to u

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          June 25, 2013

          Gorang on bhw

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          June 25, 2013

          manolo12399

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            June 25, 2013

            Sent by PM.

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          June 26, 2013

          My sn on BHW is themandave88, PM me as well 🙂

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          July 24, 2013

          Hi syed,

          Just found this … could you pm me too?

          BHW username is patch_carey

          Thanks

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        June 27, 2013

        please pm me also
        my username on BHW is ahakh

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    June 24, 2013

    You said that this has been working in many niches, can you post any 1 site (any site) which has been ranking with method? I would love to reverse engineer what they are doing. I know you have explained everything but real site analysis would help a lot.

    Thanks for the info.

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    June 24, 2013

    Hi there! I’m glad i could save a copy of your BHW thread in time, before it got deleted. I have a few questions that i would like to know the answer to if you have the time.
    1. Should i focus on PR or backlinks? (i have several domains with a lot of backlinks but PR0 can those work good?)
    2. For the product site is it important to have the exact keyword in the domain? (for example keywordreview.com or keyword123.com etc.)
    3. Can you create subdomains directly on godaddy?

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      June 28, 2013

      I think Domain Authority is a good way to filter them.

      I think it is very important for the domain name of the moneysite to have the target keywords in at least somewhere. Even if you do “keyword123.com”

      I think so. I use a different host for the other domains.

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    June 24, 2013

    Deleted on BHW = Now things just got interesting! It totally changed my respect for them that i previously had.

    Thanks for such a valuable post Agent Blackhat. I really like your style and your idea behind this blog. It seems like your creating real value = Success for both yourself and your readers.

    GREAT JOB! Keep it up!

    (I have subscribed)

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    June 24, 2013

    What analytics were you using to track these sites?

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      June 24, 2013

      I used Clicky to track the main site because I felt it might have been risky using Google Analytics. I just wanted to remain as anonymous as possible. I personally don’t like clicky as i’m more familiar with Google Analytics. But Clicky provided a nice free solution with the option to upgrade.

      Obviously I can’t track the redirects.

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        June 24, 2013

        Hi, can you also reply to my question asked above?

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    June 24, 2013

    Did you see the sub-domained Matt Cutts Payday loan antics? Do you think they used sub-domaining off a trusted domain to achieve that through redirects? 🙂

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      June 25, 2013

      I spoke to the guy who did this, he didn’t use redirects but he won’t say exactly how he did it. To be honest, I don’t think it was very hard for him. When Google penalizes a lot of well built sites, they leave the door open for anyone to come along and spam their way in. So his sites didn’t need to be strong to achieve those results.

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        June 25, 2013

        Thanks for finding that out, certainly interesting. The results at the moment feel like 5 years+ ago and I haven’t really played for a long time in this arena but your post regarding Google’s scary propaganda chimed with me. The 301 trick worked very well back then. Thanks for your post and ill be coming back regularly…

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    June 24, 2013

    Hi Agent Blackhat, i really appreciate you sharing this method. I have got some old domains. I will test it out and keep you updated.

    Like John K asked above, can you share just 1 site which is currently using this method? You don’t need to share your site, any site will do.

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      June 28, 2013

      Try looking in SERPs/niches that are not currently being manually reviewed by Google.

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    June 24, 2013

    Hey man, thanks for sharing this. I used some of my high PR blog network domains to test it, results are already really promising.

    What’s even more promising is how your thread’s been deleted – clearly people don’t want this out. Anyways, I appreciate you sharing this, you coulda kept it to yourself and banked like the rest of them (probably what i would have done), but you risked it, thanks alot man.

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    June 24, 2013

    Just to add to my last comment – The 301 redirect is clearly a very powerful short term ranking method. We all know google takes forever to act and make updates, but I’m sure they keep a close eye on BHW, so it does make sense to not have it shared so publicly. With that being said, I wouldn’t have come across it otherwise…

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      June 24, 2013

      There are a lot of legitimate points for and against sharing things, i’ve taken the stance to share them and become a blog writer. I think that the evolution of tactics happens faster when information is shared. Google cannot control us if we evolve our tactics very quickly.

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        June 25, 2013

        They have to evolve quicker because they get burned out by sharing. You’re only sharing so you can make a living off the blogging and killing the techniques in the process for those who like to keep thing out of the public view.

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    June 24, 2013

    I just purchased 3 pr3 domains from godaddy and they dont have a site on them.. Should I upload some simple wordpresses w/ no content? Also, when I clone my original money site, wont google see the duplicate content? Do I have to create new content for the cloned site? Thanks

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      June 24, 2013

      No don’t bother uploading content. I’ve seen some sites using fresh content, but I don’t think it needs it and i used a clone and it worked fine.

      This might party be to the nature of 301s which is basically telling Google “Site has permanently moved”, so Google expects the content to be the same.

      To be quite honest, i think this method could work by simply ripping someone elses site.

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    June 24, 2013

    Does this work in bing? I noticed alot of subdomain sites getting 10K pages indexed in Bing within like 5-7 days after the domain is regged. I’ve been researching how they do it and I’ve been trying similar methods and I canonly get like 5 pages on a 10K page site indexed after a month or so. There has gotta be some loophole.

    Got any tips for mass indexing on bing?

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      June 24, 2013

      It kinda works in Bing yeah but not greatly. I didn’t pay much attention to Bing but it does rank.

      Bing is annoying because as you say, you can’t get shit indexed most of the time. I don’t know any tricks but I’ll share if I find any.

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    June 24, 2013

    I trust you after reading “So please don’t engage in selling the site afterwards.”

    And I also don’t care why your thread got deleted on BHW, I just focus with every single word and comment on this site.

    Let’s try this technique. Successful or not. I appreciate you for sharing.

    Thank You

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    June 24, 2013

    I have one site that I was working hard on and I was going to try and rank it with High PR Private blog posts.. It looks so legit. I have comments on it, twitter followers and a bunch of facebook likes. I know it will convert, I just want to ask you if I have enough firepower right now to do anything…

    Ok.. So I take this money site Ive been working on and leave it the way it is..

    I registered 3 pr3 domains today.. I redierect them all to my money site after I create a subdomain with my keyword, correct?

    I have 2 other blogs that Ive made that arent really doing anything but they dont even have a pagerank yet.. Do I redirect these to my money site as well without subdomains?

    That would be a total of 5 sites redirecting to my money site.. Do you think this will work by blasting links to these buffer redirects things or whatever you want to call it.?

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      June 25, 2013

      Don’t redirect to an existing site. It has to be a fresh site as far as I know. Buy a fresh domain and put a site on it then redirect a load of aged domains to it and blast all the redirects with links. That’s the way to do it.

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    June 24, 2013

    Have you tried using just 10 subdomains instead of half and half? Or even like 8 Subdomains and 2 Domains in order to save money? Do you have any content on your main sites home page that you are redirecting too? Curious how much content you have? Also have you noticed rankings for any longer tail keywords?

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      June 25, 2013

      I haven’t tried every combination, I just know that a combination of subdomains and normal domains worked well. The moneysite is a full website with content and affiliate links. I didn’t get huge longtails, i mostly got the big keywords.

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    June 24, 2013

    My niche is controlled by affiliates for the most part. Im not
    Thinking of making cloned target domain with some of the sub-domain folders/keywords part of the brand. Keep it running with a target domain ready to screw in at 2 months. Thought?

    Lastly, isn’t there a way to mask/spoof domain name in the DNS records?

    Great job you write well

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    June 25, 2013

    Hi AB, in your case study, did you redirect domains or subdomains?

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    June 25, 2013

    took action.
    I bought a new fresh domain, bought 11 expired domains with backlinks+ I have other 5 domains, where I have create 19 subdomains on them, I have already redirect everything.
    I am not sure, If for the domains with subdomains, i need to 301 also them, or just the subdomains?

    So in total now I have 30 (domains and subdomains) linking to my new website.

    Next i am going to add more spam i can to them.
    Really appreciated your article and efforts.

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      June 25, 2013

      Just the redirect the subdomains.

      As long as you have a website up on the fresh domain you’re good to go. Make sure the spam contains your target anchor text(obviously) and blast as much as you can at it.

      It took me around a week to see some movements and it took about three weeks to a month for it to really hit the top 5 keywords.

      Please let me know how it goes.

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        June 25, 2013

        hey one more think, I redirect only the subdomains, and i spam backlink only the subdomains? or also the main domain?
        Thanks

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        June 26, 2013

        Agent Blackhat – are you using the EXACT match anchor text for ALL your spam links?

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    June 25, 2013

    I just spent my last $500 buying aged domains and link spam…hope this works, or I’m screwed. Putting a lot of faith in this method…

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      June 25, 2013

      Good luck, if you need any help let me know.

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      June 25, 2013

      Let us know the results, come on skype to join the mastermind group.

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        June 25, 2013

        Looking forward to join the mastermind group on Skype. What’s your id?

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          June 27, 2013

          PM me ur I.D on BHW. My username is geniusenterprise

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    June 25, 2013

    ok sure thanks a lot

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    June 25, 2013

    by the way your thread is up again

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    June 25, 2013

    I really appreciate your share of the 301 redirect method in steps.
    Apart from Godaddy auction where or how do you purchase old domains with good backlinks profile ?

    Do you use the htaccess redirect directly in Godaddy account ?

    If I have understood right you don’t need to host or put any CMS or content in the domains you use for 301, right ?

    What is your Skype ID ?

    Thank you again

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      June 26, 2013

      I don’t think you need “good” backlinks. The age is the key plus volume of backlinks for this method.

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    June 25, 2013

    Great post,

    Should the 301 domains that are purchased be related to the Niche which the main site is about?

    thanks!

    al

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      June 28, 2013

      They don’t have to be, but using subdomains gives you some domain name relevancy too.

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    June 25, 2013

    Is there a Skype Mastermind room where we can share ideas and tips on 301 redirects? I’m trying this out for the first time as well, however, I would love to share ideas and get tips from others who are doing this for the first time and/or others who have been successful with it.

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      June 28, 2013

      I’m, toying with the idea of setting up a paid membership forum where we can be a little more direct and revealing about these techniques and other techniques.

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      June 29, 2013

      The Underground Blackhat ~Mastermind Forum is in motion and reserve spots are already being filled. Checkout my latest post for more info agentblackhat.com/join-the-underground-blackhat-seo-mastermind-forum-48-hours-to-reserve-a-spot/

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    June 25, 2013

    Great share mate, 1 question though. When you look for aged domains you use the current PR as a factor? I’ve found plenty of aged domains with great backlink profile bur PR0. What is your thoughts on this?

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      June 28, 2013

      I think the backlinks matter the most, but I try to find sites with quality backlinks. Natural backlinks rather than just spam as these always provide the best link juice.

      I think Domain Authority is a good factor to filter by.

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    June 25, 2013

    Do the NON-sub domain domains need to have exact match keywords in them for 301 redirects. Or is it just the age and the link building?

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      June 28, 2013

      They don’t need to have the keywords no.

      It’s just the strength of the domain you want to be high.

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        June 28, 2013

        Thanks brother,
        will let you know my results 🙂 send an e-mail my way would love to give you my idea and get your feedback

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    June 25, 2013

    Amazing post, Just a little confused on one step:

    When you buy these domains from GoDaddy to 301, I’m right in saying you don’t add them to any hosting? You create subdomains on them and 301 the subdomains through the GoDaddy domain manager?

    Thanks

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      June 28, 2013

      I used domains I had laying around. But if I was to buy them form GoDaddy I would just straight 301 them to the target domain.

      The subdomains are for site i don’t want to straight 301, so instead i create subdomains on the site and then 301 the subdomains.

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    June 26, 2013

    HI AB

    i have 6 months old site which got penalized so can i purchase a fresh new domain and redirect 301?

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      June 28, 2013

      Yes but it will only work temporarily. Also it is a good idea to use several domains and pump a lot of backlinks into them.

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    June 26, 2013

    Is anyone interested in starting a skype group???? Would love to connect with fellow BH’rs

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      June 26, 2013

      Already got one atm, I’ll pm you on BHW.

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        June 27, 2013

        syed my BHW account got banned last year, I have new one you can PM shakeitout

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        July 02, 2013

        Syed, can you PM me on BHW as well. Username: Reaper73 – definitely interested in joining the Skype Mastermind – am starting to run a 301 redirect test now …

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          July 15, 2013

          Can you add me on skype to the group.

          Handle is:
          court.rogers

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      June 26, 2013

      I would like to join in

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      June 26, 2013

      I am very interested in a Skype group on this topic. Let me know. My skype username is howell504

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    June 26, 2013

    Hey mate, I was wondering if you could expand just a bit on your niche/keyword selection? I’m looking at a keyword that has 613,000 “exact” results and 229M phrase results, top site is the NHS and webMD (guess the niche haha) after that is news sites and generic health sites, wikipedia is down in 10+ Is this too competitive to reach the top 3 in the time frame this method allows? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

    Also I was wondering if you could share the secret of getting aged domains for so cheap, I’m having a hard time with this and I’ve decided to just buy aged, high PR domains and build the backlinks myself, would this would advisable? When you said you buy domains with backlinks how many backlinks would you look for and also would you go for total no. of backlinks or number of unique domains linking back?

    Finally in your initial blog post you talk about the backlink packages you used, was that one of each package to all your 10+ domains or one of every package to each domain separately?

    Cheers & thanks for the replies to my previous post, much appreciated!

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      June 28, 2013

      The best way to know is if you see blackhat sites already there. If there is blackhat sites then you know what you can achieve.

      I think it is still ok to do this. Just buy several if possible. I like domains with 30+ Domain Authority.

      I used the backlink packages spread across all of the redirects. Buying one for each would cost too much. I’m in talks with a very trusted link provider on BHW to create a tailor made package which covers what is needed for this technique. So sign up to my email if you want a cheaper alternative.

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    June 27, 2013

    One final thing I forgot to ask – do you 301 first and then blast or blast then 301?

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    June 27, 2013

    Hi I forgot to mention, do the expired domains have to be indexed?

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      June 27, 2013

      I’d be a little weary of domains not indexed. I would try to find domains that are indexed.

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        June 27, 2013

        Oh Ok. But why would It matter since you are doing a straight 301 redirect?

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          June 28, 2013

          Just incase the domains have been completely deindexed by Google. I don’t think it would be a good idea to tell Google your deindexed website has moved to a new domain.

          Penalties seem ok, but I just wouldn’t trust a deindexed site being 301ed to a moneysite.

          You can always try it and see if it works though.

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        June 27, 2013

        Do the domains need to be related to the niche?

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    June 27, 2013

    Question, do you need to spam backlinks to the subdomains? or to the main sites themselves?

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      June 27, 2013

      Let me clarify. After I foward all 10 of my subdomains to my money site. Should I start to build massive amounts of backlinks to the forwarding subdomains? or to the root domains? thanks

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    June 27, 2013

    Do you mind sharing how much you made during those 2 months that you had your ranking? was it in the 10s of thousands?

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      June 28, 2013

      No it wasn’t thousands, it was a relatively small niche but I’ve seen this technique used in niches that likely make thousands. I’ll be trying the niche again soon but targeting more keywords and I hope to make much more.

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        June 28, 2013

        Was that because of a poorly converting site, poorly converting keyword, or all of the above?

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          June 28, 2013

          I think just because the product is not as popular as it once was and I wasn’t covering some other core keywords.

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            June 28, 2013

            I gotcha, I have a niche right now which I am going to try to make repeatable for the long term. Should have no problem with the competition if the 301’s do what I know they can.

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    June 28, 2013

    What’s the most powerful Spam bomb you have tried?

    I was thinking about some extreme tests in the future…. like 3-4 times everything recommended????

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      June 28, 2013

      I’m partnering up with a very trusted BHW seller to create a tailor made spam bomb which you can spread across all domains. It will be cheaper than what it cost me in this experiment and it should work very well. More news early next week on that.

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        June 28, 2013

        Excellent, I figured these experiments would be something everyone is trying…. Like I said partner and I are jumping on board with a few of these projects ourselves. Would love to bounce data-feedback off each other.

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    June 28, 2013

    Would like to start exclusive group, your paid forum sounds like a great place to start. Pay to play keeps a lot of noobs/un-welcoming eyes. My e-mail is in my WP comment. Shoot me a quick post and I can help setup this underground community.

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  80. Avatar
    June 28, 2013

    Hey gorang, Loc from BHW. So would be best out of these two scenarios
    1 – Purchase an expired EMD domain with PR4 as my new site and use old and newly purchased, expired domains with low PR to 301 to the PR4 site.

    OR

    2 – Purchase a new, never used EMD domain but use old and newly purchased domans PLUS the expired PR4 domain to 301.

    My assumption is start with the expired PR4 site as my money site since it already has the good authority

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      June 29, 2013

      Purchase a fresh domain for your moneysite, purchase aged domains with some domain authority for redirects(or use some of your unused sites) and blasted the redirects with links.

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    June 29, 2013

    I have been following this thread for a week, and is going to try on my penalized sites soon. Happy to join the underground community because i have seen many haters are attacking Gorang in BHW. Better we keep the door closed so let them bark outside.

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    June 29, 2013

    Hi, great info!

    I have a few questions.

    1. Does it matter what kind of anchor text the links to the redirect domains have? For example, if a buy a domain that have been spammed with links with the anchor text “Viagra”. Then I redirect this to a website selling skin care. Would this be a problem?

    2. If the redirect domain already has 10k links pointing to it do I still need to build more links?

    Thanks

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      June 29, 2013

      I blasted the redirects with mostly the exact anchor text I was looking to rank for.

      I don’t think it makes a huge difference, just make sure you blast that domain with enough links to dilute the Viagra relevance and push it towards your niche.

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    June 29, 2013

    Great post and learnt a lot from it 🙂

    When after a couple of months the moneysite goes down in the serps you say to buy a new domain as your new moneysite and now redirect all your sites including the old moneysite to the new moneysite.
    Do you keep building links to your redirects? Because your old moneysite already ranked and thus had enough linkpower from the redirects, do you keep building links to your redirects when these are redirected to your new moneysite?

    Thanks and have a nice weekend 🙂

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      June 29, 2013

      Yes simply add the penalized domain to your pool of redirects and redirect them all to the new site. Then blast them all with links again and the target anchor text.

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    June 29, 2013

    Thanks for such an in depth guide! I had one quick question. Since this is more like a churn and burn type of site, would the articles need to be unique on the money site? Looking to start testing soon. Thanks!

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      June 29, 2013

      The content can be the same as one of the sites you are redirecting. That is what I do. I haven’t tried it, but something tells me you might be able to rip a weak site’s content and use it as your own, template and all. Then because your site is so much more powerful Google will rank your website. Although this is really pushing the borders of ethics and I wouldn’t recommend it.

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        July 01, 2013

        I have another question =/

        Is it important for these expired domains to have PR? Was wondering if using just aged domains (2 years or older) to try to rank the money site would work.

        Was able to pick up two Pr 2 domains so far. Looking to just get a total of 5 to test this method out.

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    June 29, 2013

    Would it make any difference if you used .com, .net, .info etc for the redirect sites? They’re cheaper and there are a lot of them with good PR

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      June 29, 2013

      As long as the domains have some authority I don’t think it matters too much. Although I’d prefer to keep it with the popular domains rather than .xxx or .me types.

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  86. Avatar
    June 30, 2013

    Just found your article. Very interesting read. I did a bunch of Blackhat almost 5 years ago now. Then I used CJ and ShareaSale. Who do you use for your affiliate program?

    Thanks

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    July 01, 2013

    Hi,

    I have a few questions and hope it’s okay to ask.

    1. Do you purchase whois privacy for the domains that you are using to 301 and as the subdomains?

    2. There’s no need to set up a page or anything for these domains right?

    3. I plan on getting about 5 pr 2/3 domains. Would that be enough?

    4. I want to use 2 for subdomains and 3 for 301 redirect. Targeting a keyword around 7-10k exact match. Would the 5 domains used be enough for that?

    Thank you!

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      July 03, 2013

      1) I think buying privacy is a good idea, but I haven’t in the past.
      2) Even if you did, it wouldn’t do anything as the 301 stops the page being displayed.
      3/4) There are many factors, you’ll have to use your judgement. For me 11 domains worked in my niche, but those domains had varying strength. You need to judge for yourself. Just make sure you blast the redirects with as many links as you can.

      Let me know how it goes, im interested to see what happens for you.

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    July 01, 2013

    Let’s say you buy/own an aged, high PR network of domains, that are not hosted so do not have any pages of content. Even though you build backlinks to these domains, as Google indexes pages of content, wouldn’t Google eventually de-index them; so they would lose PR and the age would be reset?

    I’ve bought indexed domains before, which over time have gotten de-indexed.

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      July 03, 2013

      The redirects will be deindexed when you 301 them yes, that is what is supposed to happen. There’s no content so it doesn’t need to be indexed. Domains lose nothing when deindexed for 301s.

      If a site is deindexed because it received a heavy penalty then that is a different story.

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    July 01, 2013

    can somebody PM me the skype group, same username at BHW

    thank you

    buying a domain now and have 40-50 old MFA penalized domains to redirect, i will keep you posted

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    July 02, 2013

    Hi, at first I’d like to say thanks a bunch for sharing your findings. It’s really motivating to see you sharing this and actively helping people and answering questions even when you’ve recieved so much shitty response for this.
    I started working on this a few days ago targeting a kw with 14k searches for which I bought the emd.org along with 3 aged pr 2-3 domains with 5-10k backlinks. Also I’ll be using 3 other domains which I had laying around and hadn’t used yet.
    I’ve blasted these 6 domains once using Senuke and plan to have more blasts done, and the other day I ordered 200k scrapebox blog comments targeting 10 different keywords. And finally, my question is if I’m going about this the right way? Would you believe according to your experience that I might have any chance of seeing progress?

    Also I’d like a pm about the skype group through bhw where I’m using the same username if possible. Would love to discuss my future experiences.

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      July 03, 2013

      This sounds like you’re following it correctly. I would be surprised if it didn’t work. Keep up with the senuke blasts if possible too.

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    July 03, 2013

    Couple things. I’ve known about the 301 trick for some time.

    My question is:

    I don’t see how the method is on 2-6 month gig if you dilute the anchors, and all the other more grey/white techniques. Build the site out with decent content, auto schedule in WP for at least 1-2 posts/pages a week, etc etc.

    Seems like churn and burn is fine, but making the site last as long as possible while still getting quick-ish results is a better way as you can build 10 sites, that last 9-12 months or so, that make the 300-700/mo you mention (think you said few hundred).

    Every month longer a site lasts, the greater the ROI. So, it’s advantageous to just to dilute the efforts initially for the sake of the mid-long term. Or even make an ecommerce site instead of a site with tons of links out to affiliate overs.

    Just my 2 cents. Great article.

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      July 03, 2013

      If I could be sure that the site would last much longer then i’d certainly try it but i don’t want to waste time and money on making it last when i’m not sure it will.

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    July 03, 2013

    Hy, thank you for this article, i have 1 single question. What do you think, if the “money site” is a web 2.0 blog like tumblr, devhub etc. will be ok?
    Thanks in advance

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      July 05, 2013

      I think it will be interesting to see what happens. I’ve been seeing tumbler and tripod blogs ranking recently. I haven’t tested this but I think it should work as long as the blog owners don’t see the redirects and delete your blog first.

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    July 03, 2013

    Thats Fantastic! Quick question. As I understand I can use any domain with PR to redirect, regardless of the niche the domain is from? For example my money site is Iphone5unlock.com and the domain I redirect is Bestcookingrecepies.com Is it Ok something liek this. Thanks!

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      July 05, 2013

      I think relevancy helps a lot, but the power the domain has is still taken into account, regardless of what Google says.

      As you get to your third and 4th cloned site the relevance starts to really build up quickly and the technique seems to rank even faster.

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    July 03, 2013

    I forgot to ask you, if i need to creat content for the redirected subdomains(instaliing wordpress etc). Thank you

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    July 03, 2013

    Is there any way you can prevent these re-directs from coming up on ahrefs.com. Dont want a whole lot of people to know this and report my site to Google

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      July 05, 2013

      I don’t think so. Ahrefs looks at the backlinks and follows them. You have no control over the other domains so you cant block ahrefs bot. Some people think you can block ahrefs on your own site and it will stop the backlinks being detected but i don’t see how that could be possible as ahrefs doesn’t need to see your website in order to see the backlinks pointing to it.

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        August 24, 2013

        Hey man,

        You are slightly wrong on this part. Backlinking tools such as ahrefs, open site explorer, majestic SEO display backlinks from a website by crawling them.

        What you can do to stop this is block all crawlers within the robots.txt file of the money site. It will be something like “useragent: ahrefs-bot” and then on the next line it would be “Allow: /” and boom, no one to check the backlinks of your website, so no more worries about competitors. I believe there is a thread on BHW that explains in a lot more detail than I just did.

        Shoot me an email if you can’t find. Happy to help out where I can

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          September 01, 2013

          All that will do is prevent ahrefs from crawling your website. Ahrefs will still have a record for all links that their bot crawled that point to your site. How does stopping ahrefs from crawling your site prevent the listing of links that POINT to your site? It doesn’t of course but if it makes you feel any better you can pretend it does.

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            March 26, 2014

            You don’t need to hide links that are pointing to the redirects, you need to hide redirects pointing to your money site. If you won’t allow sites like Ahrefs to crawl your redirect domains/subdomains then they will have no record of those redirects to your money site and that’s all you need to hide before your competitors whom will be scratching their heads thinking how on the world are you ranking on the 1st page with no links and new site.

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    July 05, 2013

    Tried this with some domains I had lying around, made 7 sub domains and 301d them to a new domain and also 301d a full site that was penalised a couple of weeks ago (unnatural links) the site had a -50 penalty and was ranked around 55 for its main keyword after the penalty.

    I sent around 300,000 links spread across the 8 different 301s over 3 days but my new domain will not pass the 55 rank of the old site it has been there for 5 days my new site has a citation flow of over 60 in a week which is quite impressive with just 8 301s as backlinks.

    Anyway been trying to work out why my site won’t pass the 55 rank and I believe I have bought a domain that has had a penalty probs similar to the -50 it doesn’t show in google for its brand name, I noticed it was indexed in google right after I bought it but with different meta data so it has definitely been sed before, but it has no historic backlinks strangely.

    My plan is to buy another new domain change all the sub domain redirects to the new domain, change the old penalised site to point to the new site and also redirect the one I bought a week ago to he new site and blast it with lots of links. Would you do it this way???

    Can’t wait or the new forum to open should be good.

    Please feel free to add me on Skype if you have any suggestions that could help coxi9999

    Hopefully can pass that 55 rank if all goes to plan.

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      July 05, 2013

      How competitive is the keyword? Its only been five days so just give it another week and see what happens. I think the problem you might have is that the subdomains and the site you bought just don’t have enough power pushing through them.

      Keep on pumping links into the subdomains and the redirected domain if possible. You may just need to give Google time to see all the new links to the redirects. If you have any other domains laying around or friends with domains they don’t want just grab them and add them too so there is more authority.

      I think you should just buy more domains and point them to the moneysite. I took me 2-3 weeks to hit the first page for my keyword.

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        July 05, 2013

        If you have time add me on Skype and I will show you my set-up and I think you might change your mind, its almost like the penalty the money site has had in the past wont let it past the -50 penalty, the rankings are to steady at 55 imo.

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    July 06, 2013

    Fantastic post here! – I’m going to get this set up over the next week just got 1 quick question:

    Would go go with 1 keyword for all sites or is it worth using more eg ‘blue widgets’ ‘compare blue widgets’ ‘cheap blue widgets’?

    If using more than 1 keyword how best to target the redirected domains? – fire links containing all 3 keywords to all the 301’d domains or target the keywords in the ‘list 1’ urls and the ‘list 2’ subdomains specifically with 1 keyword (matching the specific keyword in the url)?

    eg

    anchor text ‘cheap blue widgets’ to cheapbluewidgets.com and cheapbluewidgets.anydomain.com

    anchor text ‘compare blue widgets’ to comparebluewidgets.com and comparebluewidgets.anydomain.com

    etc

    Not sure if it matters but would be interested in knowing your thoughts thanks!

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    July 06, 2013

    Agent Blackhat,
    where do you purchase domains to use for the redirects beside Godaddy ?

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    July 07, 2013

    do you think the method still works after penguin 2.0? would u be able to rank site now ?

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      July 08, 2013

      It worked through Penguin 2.0 and i’ve just ranked a new site so yes.

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        July 10, 2013

        How long could it take to rank your site to the previous ranking when you 301 to a new domian?

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    July 07, 2013

    Hi, i have question can i use short urls service to blast ?

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      July 22, 2013

      I’ve not tried using them, this could be an interesting case study but it just seems a little too easy.

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    July 07, 2013

    Hi AB
    Being a thicko at understand all of these, just wanted to see if I was on the same page?????
    Buy a new domain pizza.com for the money site
    Buy 10 domains with good backlink profile and PR
    Buy anydomain.com
    Create 10 subdomains on each domain
    anydomain.pepperonipizza.com
    anydomain.meatfeastpizza.com
    anydomain.hawaiian.com
    anydomain.cheeseandtomatopizza.com
    anydomain.hamandmushroompizza.com
    anydomain.hotandspicypizza.com
    anydomain.thickcrustpizza.com
    anydomain.chickenpizza.com
    anydomain.chickenpizza.com
    anydomain.chickenpizza.com
    Redirect these to pizza.com
    Link build to the subdomains with the exact match anchored text.
    When the money site get burned, take down the hosting, add them back to the hosting account repeat the above process for the burned site.
    Put a new money site up, change the redirects to the new money sites and start over again.
    If I have missed somwthing let me know
    dizzy

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      July 22, 2013

      When the site gets penalized buy a new domains redirect all the domains to the new site.

      I’m not sure what you mean about reading hosting but you have the general idea.

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    July 08, 2013

    Hi, Great post. I have some question.

    1. Do I need setup wordpress on my domain and sub domain or just need to add the domain to hosting and then make redirect is enough.

    2. Should I keep the link blast over time or just blast until I’m high spot in Google and stop them.

    3. If I redirect all of my domain to a new site with another keyword but easy to rank (The anchor text of redirect domain is different with the easy keyword I want to rank fast). Do you think it work, I just need to rank in some day is enough and keyword extreme easy.

    4. The process when my money site got penalty as I understand is: move all 301 from the old one which has been penalty to the new one, move the old one to the pool, blast link and 301 to the new one. Is it right?

    Thanks a lot, man 🙂

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      July 22, 2013

      1. I used a mixture of domains, some were form godaddy auctions i bought a year earlier, others were subdomains and others were full sites with a similar template. So to answer your question, I don’t know what is the best way to do it, but the way I did it worked well. This is the type of thing i’m trying to find the answer to in the Blackhat Underground forum.

      2. I just blasted as many links as quickly as possible. I stopped linkbuilding after a couple of weeks.

      3. Personally, I think keyword relevancy has an effect but these are things we need to run case studies on individually as i’m often finding that what we have perceived to be true concerning the way Google’s algorithm works is actually not correct.

      4. That is right. Although I have noticed one guy successfully using this technique would 301 them at google.com in between

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    July 10, 2013

    Fantastic post here! – I’m going to get this set up over the next week just got 2 quick questions:

    do you need to 301 all 404 errors on the target site to the home page so you don’t lose the link juice if the feeder site has some strong links to subpages eg bluewidgets.com/example1.htm has loads of links, if we redirect this to the new site and it doesn’t have an example1.htm page does the link juice get lost? In the past when doing 301’s from old sites I’ve then redirected all 404s on the new site to the home page.

    Also, would you go with 1 keyword for all sites or is it worth using more eg ‘blue widgets’ ‘compare blue widgets’ ‘cheap blue widgets’?

    If using more than 1 keyword how best to target the redirected domains? – fire links containing all 3 keywords to all the 301′d domains or target the keywords in the ‘list 1′ urls and the ‘list 2′ subdomains specifically with 1 keyword (matching the specific keyword in the url)?

    eg

    anchor text ‘cheap blue widgets’ to cheapbluewidgets.com and cheapbluewidgets.anydomain.com

    anchor text ‘compare blue widgets’ to comparebluewidgets.com and comparebluewidgets.anydomain.com

    etc

    Not sure if it matters but would be interested in knowing your thoughts thanks!

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      July 22, 2013

      I 301 all of the 404 errors to the exact url on the new domain and let it 404.

      So domain1.com/anything-here will redirect to domain2.com/anything-here

      I’m not sure on the keyword issue. I’m leaning towards using only the main top level exact match keyword. This sounds counter intuitive with what we know about Penguin but this works better for me.

      As long as the URL contains the keywords thats all that is needed.

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    July 14, 2013

    It’s been about 20 days since I started this 301 project and I’ve seen less than lackluster results. Low competition keyword in the auto industry, 8000 exact match search per month…spent $246 on domains and $150+ on links…I used most of the backlinking services listed above except the $190 web 2.0 package.

    Followed instructions to a T. Each 301 redirect domain has about 20,000+ domains point to the URL.
    Results?

    Main keyword is floating around 50.

    Interesting thing is that my domain’s citation flow is around 61.

    Kind of a bummed about the results, could of used that money on high PR links…oh well, back to the drawing board. :-S

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      July 20, 2013

      Im no expert, bro.

      But what about doing a great number of links? Sth like 200k-300k links on AA lists using SB?

      What I understand is to create HUGE amount of backlinks and not to focus on quality.

      Give it a shot with AA lists, bro and report back 🙂

      OFFTOPIC: Great Post, pal!

      What do you think of sending thousands of backlinks to a newly indexed domain with 301 redirect? Would it work the same? Or would it have the same effect if I massbacklinked the money site?

      Also, how many people have suscribed to the Underground Forum? It seems only a handful of people have gone there…

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      July 22, 2013

      How are rankings currently? From what you say, you’ve done everything I would have done.

      Nothing in SEO is 100% successful and there may have been an oversight. If you want you can send me the site and i’ll have a look over it.

      Check you have the 301s redirecting correctly, such as domain.com/page is redirecting and not just the homepage.

      Did you buy the domains in an auction on GoDaddy or are they dropped domains?

      I think with the money you’ve spent you’re giving up too early. You should drop the main site and buy a new fresh domain to start again.

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    July 20, 2013

    Gorang, thanks for this. This works but I cant keep up the domain in top serps for over 5-7 days. Should I always spam 301’s ?

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      July 22, 2013

      I think there is a specific reason it only ranks for 7 days sometimes, i’m in the process of testing some things.

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    July 22, 2013

    Are there any updates after the latest Penguin 2.0 that targeted spammy backlinks such as those that we are employing?

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      July 22, 2013

      Penguin 2.0 had no effect on my sites when I was using it.

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    July 22, 2013

    Hello,
    Something i don’t underdand in your explanation is about 301 without hosting? I usually buy mines on namecheap and don’t see this option there. Is it possible or only goddad ?
    thank you for the light )

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    July 22, 2013

    Hi and Thanks a lot Gorang fo sharing !
    I read all this page (and its huge comments!!).
    I got many old unused domains, I’m ready to start tomorrow !
    I will post ma feedaback asap !

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  109. Avatar
    July 23, 2013

    Okay, my question to you, in order for me to comprehend it better. Your strategy is as follows (if I understand it correctly):
    1. buy a new domain
    2. get a good theme and quality content
    3. buy aged site with good backlinks
    4. 301 the aged domain to the new domain
    5. create new subdomains (with all KW’s u wanna target) from the aged domain & 301 the subdomains to mainpage of the aged domain
    6. spam like hell pointed at the subdomains of the aged domain

    So basically it looks like this:

    SPAM -> SUBS AGED -> AGED MAIN -> NEW SITE

    Am I correct? Or is it different because I dont understand your guide correctly, i feel.

    Can you explain this to me?

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    July 23, 2013

    Does anyone have any feedback on backlink variations? Or as long as there ARE some variations, the majority can just be blog comments on AA blogs and such. I know Gorang used web 2.0s as he wanted to go “all in”; does anyone have any feedback on the necessity of web 2.0s as well?

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    July 24, 2013

    Can you create subdomains on websites that are being redirected to another site?

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    July 25, 2013

    Hi,

    would you be willing to help me rank 2 tough keywords?

    If so let me know. Get them ranked and I will give you ….. $500-1000!

    Look forward to your email.

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  113. Avatar
    July 26, 2013

    What kinds of old domains are we really looking for? Do they need hi PR or just tons of backlinks? Lots of hi PR backlinks? Does being listed on dmoz help or not? Thanks a lot for your help.

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    July 28, 2013

    dunno how I landed on your site,but glad I did……….that’s some seriously good info mate.

    bookmarked, looking forward to your next case study

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    July 30, 2013

    Hi is all the backlinks you bought needed or could i use scrapebox and senuke to build thousands of backlinks?

    thanks

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    August 01, 2013

    Hi,
    Thanks for the share 🙂
    I have some questions before I try this.

    As i’m website developer I have quite big portfolio.
    I would try to use my clients sites for subdomains.
    Does it affects their rankings if I litterally spam their subdomain. I mean client site is xxx.com and I bomb ss.xxx.com. would it harm his site?
    Is it good idea to try this method for adsense site or my account get banned?
    And finally how much is enough for spam? Like if I buy some fiverr blasts (about 20k backlinks) for every subdomain

    Thanks and good luck for anyone!

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    August 06, 2013

    We were able to get some keywords to rank in google top 20-30 SERPs. They rose pretty quickly, from nowhere to 2nd/3rd page by week 2/3, but then they only ranked at their peak for about a week. They dropped very fast afterwards (although there has been some puzzling temporary upward movement on a keyword here and there since, but we are talking from ranking 100 to like 92 so probably not relevant)

    We followed the methods exactly as described. What do you suggest trying?

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      August 26, 2013

      I had exactly the same as tristanhunt, except, they did not drop for instant. They are still between 20-25 SERP for 3 weeks.

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    August 29, 2013

    Please reserve a spot for me at the underground forum.
    Shoot me an email, thank you!

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    September 04, 2013

    Hi Agent,
    Firstly thanks for your sharing! I’m planning to join the under ground forum in this weekend. But before that, just one question need your help. If one person use this trick to SEO his site, is it possible to find out the list of his old domains used to 301? How?

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      September 12, 2013

      Hey, the redirects will show in MajesticSEO and other backlink checkers unless the owner blogs their bots in htaccess.

      The forum is doing great and we are certainly a tight nit group of smart people. We don’t let everyone and anyone in though, let me know if you want to apply and we will have a review of your details.

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    September 10, 2013

    Do you believe that this method will work on youtube videos? Thanks

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      September 17, 2013

      You don’t really need to use this for a youtube videos, because they are already hosted on authority domain. If you do it right you can just spam links to your youtube video directly and rank high.

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    September 14, 2013

    Hello,

    I am already a big google hater after several years and decide to redirect my main money earning site to a different TLD “.net” after 2 days my google organic started to increasing up %50 everyday. On the 3rd increase day the algorithm shot me down back to same hit. Now i am trying to a new TLD “.org” and waiting. My question is can it last like forever? almost every week (or i do not know when google updates its algorithm) redirect to a new domain and keep make revenues like old good days.

    thanks for your opinions,
    OarSmaN

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    September 16, 2013

    hi – vishy here from over at smartersubmit
    firstly fantastic post!

    questions…
    1. when the first money site gets hit after doing the trick, then for the new site… you just redirect all the old 301 subdomains and 301 domains to the new site that you setup? or, do you leave the old 301s to the previous money site and build out a new set of 301 redirects including pointing the old money site to the new one?

    2. can you use domains which are nicely aged but zero PR? and low DA? Backlinks to it are important right?

    3. is your private underground group still open? are there other techniques…?

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    September 17, 2013

    Hey Agent,

    I’ve been testing this method myself before stumbling on your post. Mine testing mostly consisted of building my own links 24/7 with a VPS and bunch of seo tools.

    From my understanding 2 important things happen with a redirect. The penalties hit some time after the link juice and that’s why sites rank well but last only for a period of time.

    With that said, I think you can tweak this method to achieve much longer rating. For example instead of building a massive spam of all links, just build a few thousand higher quality link. If the domain has enough authority it should handle the high amount of links.

    What do you think about that? Also from my experience it works well to building links to the domains before you redirect. If you want to chat more about this, hit me up.

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      September 17, 2013

      We’re currently experimenting with simply using SAPE. I think the massive SPAM list are not that powerful anymore and we do need something with real pushing power.

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        September 17, 2013

        Are you experimenting with SAPE on the domain itself or on the redirected domains?

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  124. Avatar
    September 18, 2013

    Would you say that this diagram is accurate?
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t6zmiqobdp8kji/subdom.png

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  125. Avatar
    September 19, 2013

    Hi there,

    I´m just amazed about this post, I just started few months ago in this world and trying to do things well and now I know a little bit more about the topic and about studying my competence I´m realizing how “incredible” some of my competitors are ranking in google with, let´s say, not white hat techniques precisely…
    Anyway, I just read the whole thread and I would like to ask you a couple of questions:

    1. Maybe it sounds ridiculous, but does it make sense to use webmasters tools from google to submit the urls from your money site to be sure they get indexed?
    In my experience with new sites, they don´t get indexed in google properly until I submit the urls to googe. btw I use to build my own java websites, not wordpress sites, just in case it makes any difference…

    2. So once the main site is penalised, you say just redirect all your pool of websites to a new fresh website, and continue link building them, until the new fresh site gets penalised again. My question here is, does this finish at some point? or it should work even better in the long term since the redirects are going to have more and more back links always?

    Hope this thread is still alive and you can give me your point of view 🙂

    I´m definetely going to give this strategy a shot and i will have a look to the forum as well.

    Thanks!

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  126. Avatar
    September 24, 2013

    It’s still working for you? I test it on 2 strong domains directing to one subpage, one keyword. Result? Domain of subpage get banned 😀

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  127. Avatar
    October 03, 2013

    Hey Gorang,

    Is this method still working for you? Or you have made some alterations to this.

    Would love to know.

    Thanks.

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      October 03, 2013

      I don’t know if Google made any changes to target 301s, but what we know about the technique has changed.

      It still works but there is an element of luck and a lot of preparation needed if you really want to make a go of it. It also costs a fair bit. You can’t really target “Payday loans” as manual reviews will take the site out quickly.

      We’re still seeing similar techniques work around the net, but strangely, we find a running theme, the person will have several successful attempts, but then they tend to get more difficult each time.

      We’re still running case studies and discovering new things in the forum though.

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  128. Avatar
    October 15, 2013

    Great post agent blackhat. I’m definitely gonna give this a try this week. However I found your blog whilst looking for a way to find domains that are 301’ing to a competitor, as they don’t have any backlinks to their domain at all, and yet rank high for a difficult keyword. Do you know if it is possible to find other domains that are 301’ing to a particular domain, without having any control over the domain yourself?

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    October 16, 2013

    Hi Gorang,
    After the new refresh do you think this method will work ? I want to try it myself and i will but i wanted to see what your test showed after this.
    I know that this thing could still work as i’ve seend website ranking with 0 backlinks in competitive niches..

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    November 07, 2013

    Not sure this still works anymore. My site went up to pos.2 on page 1 and then a week later it dropped 5 pages.

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      November 21, 2013

      There are many factors involved. I have had a similar experience, but then I changed the way I work and it is definitely still working.

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  131. Avatar
    December 31, 2013

    I have been doing something similar with 301s to boost rankings.
    But how could you be sure the penalty on your money site is not due to you own network being discovered by google?
    If they can track you then they could possbly find your network and if yo are promoting more than one money site with the same network then of course, its even worse.

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    January 10, 2014

    Does this method still work? Im thinking of implementing it now.

    also could you drop me your skype?

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      January 10, 2014

      It is still working. Have you seen the BHU forum? We talk about it alot there. PM me there.

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    January 10, 2014

    So the quality of the domains you’re using as 301’s don’t make a huge difference is that correct? Say I have 10 penalized domains and I 301 them to my money site. Does this have the same or a similar affect as 10 clean yet aged sites?

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      January 11, 2014

      This is not a great answer, but I don’t feel I can say anything for sure. you have to test them. Maybe it would be better if you create a thread in the public section of our forum and I can take a look at your setup fully and give you a proper answer http://www.blackhatunderground.net

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        February 21, 2014

        Hi i want to ask u 1 thing that if we have domains that has back link profile 20-30k each and there are 4 domains we have buy them as expired domains are removed from google index should we need to make them live or we should directly redirect them as we are seeing no ranking shifts with money site so should we make them live get them indexed and then redirect

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  134. Avatar
    February 23, 2014

    So u builds 2 site, one is moneys site and one is domain site for redirect?

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  135. Avatar
    March 17, 2014

    Great articlee. I would like to implement this strategy as it has provided me with answers as to how so many spammy sites are ranking in certain niches!

    Can I just use my current money site rather than buying a new domain?

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    May 19, 2014

    Hi, I really like your 301 post and want to thank you for the information. Finally someone willing to share some secrets. I do have a quick question, have you used or no anyone that has used blackhathitman.com link building software? I was thinking about making the purchase, but then i was thinking maybe i should just buy GSA and go that rout. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated. One additional question, would you recommend purchasing SAPE links for the 301 urls to rank faster?

    Thanks
    Andrew

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  137. Avatar
    May 19, 2014

    Hi again, i am ready to implement the 301 strategy but was a bit confused about one thing.. When your site dies, do you redirect that site to the new site to include the previous 11 domains or just the site that dies leaving the previous eleven somewhat on a two level redirect? Also, i am getting ready to buy Ultimate nitch finder using your link, this software has the ability to bring up a lot of keywords, do i use as many keywords as possible or just drill down the specific ones with less competition i can rank for faster?

    thanks again
    Andrew

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      June 02, 2014

      Better asking this over at the forum blackhatunderground.net, there is a public section there

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  138. Avatar
    June 24, 2014

    Thanks a lot for this great post. You say that you “clone my old site to my new domain”… but is it a 100% clone, with same content on it ? What about duplicate content issues ? Isn’t it a problem to rank your new site (since it’s a duplicated one…) ?

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    January 13, 2015

    Great article, i will love to apply this technique and see how i can grab some quick bucks through this method thanks for the nice share….

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    January 19, 2015

    Question

    I use GSA URL redirect Pro or just GSA Ser for redirects which I get redirects up to PR 9

    Could you make a buffer site out of web 2.0 and hit that with redirects to rank your website to page 1 and let the web 2 take all the heat??

    Thanks

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  141. Avatar
    February 14, 2015

    This method is awesome. ITs works and tested by me to for my best experience in seo blackhat

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    February 21, 2015

    Great article, i will try to do that and come back with reply, reguarding the websites, they should have different ips? Thanks

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  143. Avatar
    September 04, 2016

    Excellent article, the problem is how to find an expires domain name that is in my niche.

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  144. Avatar
    February 23, 2017

    Hi Buddy,

    I have a question?
    there are people who are spamming newly created third party links on google 1st page in minutes.
    please mail me back so that I can explain you what exactly is this.
    this is something blackhat technique which I am unable to crack.

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